Sramana Mitra: Talk to me about a use case and workflow as it pertains to mobile.
Mary Beth Westmoreland: As an arts and cultural organization, I’m like an aquarium. I might want to check people into the aquarium. I may want to have a special event where I’m soliciting major gifts from a subset of the population in my community. I may be out at a community event and I may want to solicit a gift to someone I just met. Mobile can help in all three of those different use cases. >>>
Sramana Mitra: I heard two things in what you said so far. One is an increasing role of data and analytics. Secondly, an increasing role of mobilizing the workflow.
Mary Beth Westmoreland: Correct. Another thing that I would say is openness. We want to create an ecosystem. At Blackbaud, we don’t feel like we have to be the one-stop shop for everything even though we kind of are. We have beautiful comprehensive solutions. What we want to do is enable innovation through our cloud so that people who have a passion in a specific area can develop something different. The trend there is to leverage the openness of the cloud to do more things.
Sramana Mitra: I’m going to start double-clicking down into a couple of things. Before we do that, can you give me a little bit of an understanding of your customer base? I imagine you work with the alumni associations of different schools or development offices of the different universities. >>>
Sramana Mitra: How much did you do in 2014?
Joe Kinsella: We don’t disclose our revenue numbers.
Sramana Mitra: How many customers did you close in 2014?
Joe Kinsella: We went from nine customers in 2013 to around 60 in 2014. It grew to 300 in 2015 and we’re 600 plus now.
Sramana Mitra: What is your pricing model?
Joe Kinsella: It’s a percentage of spend. Companies consume cloud infrastructure. We needed some way to approximate the complexity of what we do for >>>
Blackbaud is a SaaS company that caters to the philanthropic segment—helping non-profits manage their donor management workflows. This interview explores the trends and evolutions of the sector.
Sramana Mitra: Let’s start by introducing our audience to Blackbaud and yourself.
Mary Beth Westmoreland: I’m Chief Technology Officer and Senior Vice President of Product Development at Blackbaud. Blackbaud has actually been around for quite some time. We’re the leading provider of software and services for the global philanthropic community. A big chunk of that is the non-profit space. We’ve grown our customer base by about 15% and our stock price by about 70% over the past two years. We’re a growing company. We serve more than 35,000 customers today in the philanthropic space and also the consumers. >>>
Sramana Mitra: At this point, you had a bunch of customers. You had validation. Did your venture fund write you a check?
Joe Kinsella: They did not. Along the way, I had a series of advisors. I had six advisors. The goal there was to really find people who complemented my skills. I had just two questions I wanted to ask them. One is, “Should I continue bootstrapping this business or should I raise money? If I should raise money, will it be a seed round or an A round?” The second one is, “Do I hire a CEO?” It was a great discussion.
The net result was to go straight for an A round and hire a CEO. Before I raised the A round, I figured I’ll bring the CEO on board. Dan was CEO at Silverback. I sat down with Dan and reviewed everything together. He looked at me and said, “Why am I not your CEO?” At that time, Dan had been building out the Entrepreneur Center over at UMass Boston. I knew from earlier that he had been thinking about doing a startup at some point in the future. The timing just aligned. >>>
Sramana Mitra: Can you backtrack for me for a second and answer a couple of questions before we get to this point? I have a bit of a gap in the process here. You said you were running a bunch of experiments and one of them turned into this situation. How many such experiments around different product hypothesis did you run?
Joe Kinsella: It wasn’t product hypothesis. I knew the business I was starting was management of cloud infrastructure in some way, shape, or form. It was taking different hypotheses where the market could go in different directions in trying to understand how people were thinking about this problem. I ran, at least, six experiments.
Sramana Mitra: You were going to do something in cloud infrastructure management and you were just trying to find the angle through which to get in. >>>
Sramana Mitra: What year are we now?
Joe Kinsella: 2012.
Sramana Mitra: What was the relationship with Northbridge? Is that the company that had funded the company that you went to work for?
Joe Kinsella: Yes, Northbridge was one of the investors in Silverback. One of the partners there, Jeff McCarthy, was on the Board at Silverback. I looked at two firms for an EIR. I also looked at a newer firm in Boston. I ended up deciding to go with Northbridge.
Sramana Mitra: How did you utilize your EIR time?
Joe Kinsella: I needed the brand to work under. As I started making calls and engaging with people, I had something more than just me as a one-person >>>
Sramana Mitra: Did you go work for Dell?
Joe Kinsella: I did. I like to tell people that I spent three years at Dell, two of which I can explain because I was under a contract. I wasn’t sure why I stayed the third year. Dell is a great company, but I’m a software person.
Sramana Mitra: It’s a hardware company.
Joe Kinsella: It’s better now. I noticed this morning, they actually sold out their software group. At that time, it was really hard because I think they were trying to morph from system integrator DNA into hardware DNA. There was a very early form of that software group where Dell was doing acquisitions on a steady basis. One of the West Coast companies that was acquired was Evergreen. They had a whole series of SaaS acquisitions. >>>